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Framing Public Discussion of Gay Civil Unions
Unformatted Document Text:  Framing Public Discussion 19 agree with it. [23:33] < Jane > Homosexuals should have legalized marriages. So big deal if it doesn’t seem normal to everyone else. They are people and fall in love like heterosexuals [23:34] < Mike > Why do so many things favor “marriage”? [23:35] < Jane > What do you mean Mike [23:35] *[Moderator] ‘Some have characterized recognizing homosexual marriages as a matter of granting special rights. Do you think of this issue as a matter of special rights?’ [23:36] < Will > What is a “normal” family anymore? Mom, Dad and kids? Single mom and kids?, Grandma and kids? Two dads? Four moms? There is no normal anymore. [23:36] < Mike > Tax laws/benefits, health Insurance discounts,.... [23:37] < Ed > Same situation existed during biblical times [23:37] < Will > Why would giving homosexuals the same rights as everybody else be giving them special rights-it’s right wing politics. To Jack, regardless of what gay relationships are called, those in them deserve equal treatment under the law. Despite fairly broad group consensus supporting this view, one member (Bob) did dissent, without explanation. As Mike elaborates, various presumed advantages of marital status, in taxation and access to health care, are seen as unfair. Such concerns were voiced in a number of discussions. References to “benefits” occurred 26 times; “tax” appears 19 times, and “health” 15 times in the group interactions. Catch phrases. Distinctive phrases surface multiple times in the discussions. For example, consider the response of a heterogeneous group (#60) to the “civil unions” version of the initial question: [21:30] <Charlene> That makes me want to vomit! [21:30] <Michael> Nothing is the same as when we were kids. [21:30] <Helen> No , the good guys always won and kissed their horse, not like the overt sexual scenes and murder in films today [21:31] <Charlene> As the saying goes, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! [21:31] <Frank> Charlene you have a partner in that thought!! [21:31] <Charlene> Thank you Frank [21:33] <Michael> I don’t have an answer, but leaving them alone might be best. [21:33] <Charlene> I do not understand a government that will promote sodomites (call them what they are) and then kill babies. Here we find both an allusion to the movie-world simplicity of “good guys” in Westerns (from Michael), followed by Charlene’s comment that “God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.” The latter phrase was used to express disapproval of gay partnerships in four different

Authors: Price, Vincent., Nir, Lilach. and Cappella, Joseph.
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Framing Public Discussion
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agree with it.
[23:33] < Jane > Homosexuals should have legalized marriages. So big deal if it doesn’t seem normal to
everyone else. They are people and fall in love like heterosexuals
[23:34] < Mike > Why do so many things favor “marriage”?
[23:35] < Jane > What do you mean Mike
[23:35] *[Moderator] ‘Some have characterized recognizing homosexual marriages as a matter of granting
special rights. Do you think of this issue as a matter of special rights?’
[23:36] < Will > What is a “normal” family anymore? Mom, Dad and kids? Single mom and kids?, Grandma
and kids? Two dads? Four moms? There is no normal anymore.
[23:36] < Mike > Tax laws/benefits, health Insurance discounts,....
[23:37] < Ed > Same situation existed during biblical times
[23:37] < Will > Why would giving homosexuals the same rights as everybody else be giving them special
rights-it’s right wing politics.

To Jack, regardless of what gay relationships are called, those in them deserve equal
treatment under the law. Despite fairly broad group consensus supporting this view, one member
(Bob) did dissent, without explanation. As Mike elaborates, various presumed advantages of
marital status, in taxation and access to health care, are seen as unfair. Such concerns were
voiced in a number of discussions. References to “benefits” occurred 26 times; “tax” appears 19
times, and “health” 15 times in the group interactions.
Catch phrases. Distinctive phrases surface multiple times in the discussions. For
example, consider the response of a heterogeneous group (#60) to the “civil unions” version of
the initial question:
[21:30] <Charlene> That makes me want to vomit!
[21:30] <Michael> Nothing is the same as when we were kids.
[21:30] <Helen> No , the good guys always won and kissed their horse, not like the overt sexual scenes and
murder in films today
[21:31] <Charlene> As the saying goes, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
[21:31] <Frank> Charlene you have a partner in that thought!!
[21:31] <Charlene> Thank you Frank
[21:33] <Michael> I don’t have an answer, but leaving them alone might be best.
[21:33] <Charlene> I do not understand a government that will promote sodomites (call them what they are)
and then kill babies.
Here we find both an allusion to the movie-world simplicity of “good guys” in Westerns (from
Michael), followed by Charlene’s comment that “God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and
Steve.” The latter phrase was used to express disapproval of gay partnerships in four different


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