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Framing Problems in Crisis Negotiation: Reframing in the Case of Waco
Unformatted Document Text:  Reframing in the Waco Negotiations 24 in the compound. Just prior to this exchange, they were talking about why Koresh refused to send out any more children. Excerpt 7 – Day 8 –tape 80 – lines 331-363 (DW: Dick Wren & DK: David Koresh) DW: You're not the only one that believes in God or [a God all right? 331 DK: [N- n- n- no. I'm the only 332 one that has the proper understanding of God and the light of the seven 333 seals. Now contend with me on that. What's the third Seal. Where is it 334 found. Tell me. Come on. You got the prophecies there in front of you. 335 You got the Bible. Where's it at? 336 DW: I'm not going to argue about the seals with you 337 DK: Okay. Okay. Now look. You're I'll give you an honest opportunity 338 before God blows your rear-end away. You get on the phone. You call 339 Vatican. You call everywhere you want to in the world. You find a priest. 340 You find a teacher. And you tell him to tell you and show you where the 341 third seal is. 342 DW: David 343 DK: Then I'll send you out another child. 344 DW: The seals are all well and good and we [will deal with th- 345 DK: [You don't know what they are. 346 They're they're evil against you though. 347 DW: David [you can tell me about that. 348 DK: [They're going to destroy you and punish you with immense 349 torments. They're good for us. Bad for you though. 350 DW: David let's. Get those innocent. Children. [Out of there. 351 DK: [Okay. Call me up and show 352 me where the third seal is and then I'm going to send you more children 353 out. 354 DW: David I told you that I am not in a [position 355 DK: [O:h wha:t o:h so you don't want to take 356 up God's [little task here huh. 357 DW: [It's not that's not the point. 358 DK: Father it looks like you're going to have to do your work. 359 DW: That is not the point David. 360 DK: Oh it is the point where I come from. You may not fear God. You may 361 not fear his judiciary. You may laugh and scoff at his judgment. 362 DW: David, I have never done that in all the conversations we had 363

Authors: Agne, Robert.
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Reframing in the Waco Negotiations 24
in the compound. Just prior to this exchange, they were talking about why Koresh refused to
send out any more children.
Excerpt 7 – Day 8 –tape 80 – lines 331-363 (DW: Dick Wren & DK: David Koresh)
DW: You're not the only one that believes in God or [a God all right?
331
DK:
[N- n- n- no. I'm the only
332
one that has the proper understanding of God and the light of the seven
333
seals. Now contend with me on that. What's the third Seal. Where is it
334
found. Tell me. Come on. You got the prophecies there in front of you.
335
You got the Bible. Where's it at?
336
DW: I'm not going to argue about the seals with you
337
DK:
Okay. Okay. Now look. You're I'll give you an honest opportunity
338
before God blows your rear-end away. You get on the phone. You call
339
Vatican. You call everywhere you want to in the world. You find a priest.
340
You find a teacher. And you tell him to tell you and show you where the
341
third seal is.
342
DW: David
343
DK:
Then I'll send you out another child.
344
DW: The seals are all well and good and we [will deal with th-
345
DK:
[You don't know what they are.
346
They're they're evil against you though.
347
DW: David [you can tell me about that.
348
DK:
[They're going to destroy you and punish you with immense
349
torments. They're good for us. Bad for you though.
350
DW: David let's. Get those innocent. Children. [Out of there.
351
DK:
[Okay. Call me up and show
352
me where the third seal is and then I'm going to send you more children
353
out.
354
DW: David I told you that I am not in a [position
355
DK:
[O:h wha:t o:h so you don't want to take
356
up God's [little task here huh.
357
DW:
[It's not that's not the point.
358
DK:
Father it looks like you're going to have to do your work.
359
DW: That is not the point David.
360
DK:
Oh it is the point where I come from. You may not fear God. You may
361
not fear his judiciary. You may laugh and scoff at his judgment.
362
DW: David, I have never done that in all the conversations we had
363


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